Tribe breaks ground on refinery

Three Affiliated Tribes Chairman Tex Hall shakes the hand of Bernice Larson on Wednesday, May 8, 2013, near Makoti, N.D., during a groundbreaking ceremony for a refinery owned by the tribe. Larson sold the land to the tribe. Standing between them is Thunder Butte Petroleum Services CEO Rich Mayer. Amy Dalrymple/Forum News Service

MAKOTI, N.D. – As the Three Affiliated Tribes blessed the ground Wednesday where a refinery will be built, one tribal council member called it a new day for the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara.

“It’s really an important time for our people. It’s exciting,” said tribal representative Ken Hall. “But we have to be mindful going forward to not lose our culture.”

The tribes held a ceremonial groundbreaking for the Thunder Butte Petroleum Services Refinery, which will be constructed in four phases over two years. It will have the capacity to process up to 20,000 barrels per day of Bakken crude that is produced on the Fort Berthold Reservation.

Construction is expected to begin in August on the first phase, a truck-to-rail crude oil transloading facility that later ties into the refinery, said Rich Mayer, CEO of Thunder Butte Petroleum Services.

The transloading facility, which involves building storage tanks and a connection to a Canadian Pacific line near the property, would load and ship one 120-car train every four days, said Kurt Swenson, vice president of Corval Group, a consultant involved with engineering on the project.

The rail facility will be operational by early 2014 while the refinery is being constructed.

The tribe is finalizing a contract with a company called Chemex LLC, which will construct a modular refinery in Bakersfield, Calif., and ship it to North Dakota to be assembled.

Once the contract is finalized, construction is estimated to take 18 to 24 months, Mayer said.

Initially the refinery will produce diesel and sell the byproducts. After the final phase, the refinery will have the ability to refine more diesel and also some gasoline, Mayer said.

The refinery will provide 300 local construction jobs and 75 to 100 full-time jobs after it’s operational, officials said.

“I’m just amazed at how big the impact is going to be on these communities,” Mayer said.

Three Affiliated Tribes elder Tony Mandan, left, blesses the land where a refinery will be built during a ceremony Wednesday, May 8, 2013, near Makoti, N.D.

The refinery is off of Highway 23 on 469 acres northwest of Makoti the tribe bought from Bernice Nelson of Minot, who used to farm on the property with her husband. Makoti, which had a population of 154 in 2010, is about 35 miles east of New Town.

The tribe has contributed $40 million toward the transloading facility portion of the project.

The approximate $450 million total cost will be financed with bonds, said Daniel Eastman, managing director of private investment banking firm John W. Loofbourrow Associates Inc., who traveled from New York to attend the ceremony.

Tribal members and others at the event praised Tribal Chairman Tex “Red Tipped Arrow” Hall for having the vision to pursue a refinery, a plan that began 10 years ago before the Bakken oil boom. Initially the proposal called for refining Canadian tar sands, but in 2008 the plans switched to refine the tribe’s own Bakken crude.

During the celebration, Hall reflected about his ancestors.

“We grew up poor. We were lucky if we had a pair of clean overalls,” Hall said. “But our parents made sure we went to school and got educated. They did the best they could for us. They didn’t know we’d have this oil and gas resource, but now we do. It’s our responsibility to manage it and we are.”

Three Affiliated Tribes officials are talking to other tribes about inter-tribe commerce agreements to distribute diesel from its refinery. Representatives from several tribes, including the Spokane Tribe of Indians, attended the event and are interested in distributing the diesel.

“They want to buy all of it,” Hall said. “I have to slow them down.”

Members of a group called Save Our Aboriginal Resources, who protested the tribe’s oil and gas expo this week and the groundbreaking, said the refinery should have been put to a vote of tribal members.

Marty Young Bear of New Town called the refinery “another money pit.”

Theodora Bird Bear of Mandaree said she worries about the effects on the reservation’s air and water.

“They can’t regulate it (oil development) now, so I can’t see how they can handle a refinery,” Bird Bear said.

The tribal project is one of three refineries being developed in North Dakota.

MDU Resources Group broke ground in March on a diesel refinery near Dickinson that is expected to be complete in late 2014. It will have the capacity to refine 20,000 barrels of Bakken Crude per day.

Dakota Oil Processing proposes a diesel refinery near Trenton. CEO Chester Trabucco said Wednesday the project is in final stages of financing and officials plan to make an announcement soon.

The Tesoro refinery in Mandan recently expanded to refine 68,000 barrels per day.

North Dakota produces nearly 800,000 barrels of oil per day.

Tribe says oil tax changes don’t go far enough

Three Affiliated Tribes Chairman Tex Hall speaks Tuesday, May 7, 2013, at the Oil and Gas Expo in New Town, N.D. Amy Dalrymple/Forum News Service

NEW TOWN, N.D. – A new tribal oil tax agreement is a “huge improvement” but still contains bad language that doesn’t recognize tribal sovereignty, Three Affiliated Tribes Chairman Tex Hall said Tuesday.

“I do not believe the state of North Dakota has regulatory jurisdiction over the tribe,” Hall said during the first day of the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara Nation Oil and Gas Expo, prompting applause from the crowd.

North Dakota lawmakers approved House Bill 1198 on Friday that establishes guidelines for the governor to renegotiate an agreement with the tribes that would split oil tax revenues equally, sending more money to the Fort Berthold Reservation.

Currently, the state collects 80 percent of some of the oil tax revenue and the reservation receives 20 percent.

Gov. Jack Dalrymple signed the bill Monday, but he still needs to meet with tribal leadership to renegotiate the 2008 agreement.

Hall said in an interview Tuesday he’s not sure if he will sign the agreement if some of the language he objects to can’t be renegotiated.

“There are some serious misunderstandings by state legislators who think this is their tax money,” Hall said. “It’s our oil that you’re taxing and then nothing’s coming back.”

During the expo, Tribal Vice Chairman Fred Fox said the new agreement is progress, but he still thinks the tribe should get more tax revenue.

“It’s something that we’ll take inch by inch, but we’re not satisfied,” Fox said. “I think we should be getting 100 percent of that tax, not 50 percent.”

The expo, with the theme, “Sovereignty by the Barrel,” continues today and will conclude with a groundbreaking ceremony for the tribal-owned Thunder Butte Refinery near Makoti.

Protesters gather Tuesday, May 7, 2013, in New Town, N.D., to show their opposition for the Mandan Hidatsa and Arikara National Oil and Gas Expo. Amy Dalrymple/Forum News Service

About 20 people protested the expo, with neon signs such as “Get the frack out of here,” “Tribal members need homes” and “Opposed to refinery.”

Juliane Gillette of New Town, a member of a group called Save Our Aboriginal Resources, said she and others worry about effects on the environment and object to how tribal leadership is managing the oil development.

“They’re representing the oil companies right now and they’re not representing the people,” Gillette said.

Accountability for tribal oil taxes still an issue

BISMARCK – An amendment to a bill that includes parameters for a new oil tax agreement with the Three Affiliated Tribes moved forward Friday, but legislators indicated it may get more scrutiny at a future hearing.

Members of the state Senate adopted several amendments Friday to House Bill 1234, an oil bill that includes an amendment that would equally divide oil taxes generated on the Fort Berthold Reservation between the tribes and the state.

Sen. John Andrist, R-Crosby, requested to consider the tribal tax agreement separately from other amendments in the bill.

“I hear a lot of talk about there’s no accounting for the money they’re getting right now,” Andrist said. “I think this should have more daylight.”

Andrist withdrew his request after other legislators suggested it could be dealt with at a future hearing. The bill will be discussed by the Senate Appropriations Committee on Monday.

Other amendments adopted Friday include an elimination of a tax loophole for some wells in the same area as low-producing wells, known as stripper wells.

The elimination of that tax exemption is estimated to bring an additional $104 million in revenue during the next biennium. Currently, a productive oil well in the same spacing unit as a low-producing well can qualify for the same tax exemption as the weaker wells.

While the loophole will close for some wells, others may now fall under the definition of a low-producing well and be exempt from taxes.

Another amendment would change the criteria for Bakken and Three Forks stripper wells from those that produce fewer than 30 barrels to fewer than 40 barrels. That would mean a projected loss of $13.5 million in state revenue.

Sen. Jim Dotzenrod, D-Wyndmere, said he’s concerned that changing the definition of a stripper well could cost the state significant future revenue.

Sen. Dwight Cook, R-Mandan, said the cost of drilling an oil well in the Bakken has risen 20 percent since 2008, so he feels the change is good way of encouraging continued oil exploration.

“I think it’s justifiable when you look at the cost of drilling out there,” Cook said.

Another amendment includes a tax incentive to encourage companies to drill in formations other than the Bakken and Three Forks.

In addition, the bill would withhold taxes on royalty payments to non-North Dakota residents, generating an estimated $4.2 million for the state.

State, tribal leaders work on new oil tax agreement

NEW TOWN, N.D. — Oil drilling on the Fort Berthold Reservation could be in danger if state legislators and tribal leaders can’t reach an agreement on how to share the oil tax revenue.

Leaders of the Three Affiliated Tribes are working with state legislators to amend a 2008 agreement that Chairman Tex Hall says is unfair to the reservation.

A proposal would send more money to the reservation, but Senate Majority Leader Rich Wardner said it has an “uphill climb” in the state Legislature if it doesn’t include a stipulation that the tribes spend a portion of the tax dollars on improving roads.

Hall and tribal leaders strongly object to the state telling the tribes how to spend their money and trying to exert jurisdiction over trust lands. One proposal called for the tribes to use 10 percent of new revenue for infrastructure, but the state has not committed to do the same with dollars generated on the reservation, Hall said.

“Why doesn’t the state be accountable for $314 million?” Hall said, referring to the amount of tax revenue the state has collected from oil wells on the reservation. “Why don’t they do 10 percent? It works both ways.”

The issue is critical for the entire state because tribal leaders have indicated in negotiations that they would break the existing agreement if a compromise isn’t reached, Wardner said. That could result in the tribes charging a tax on top of the state’s tax, making it too costly for companies to drill on the reservation.

“If the oil companies stop drilling, we all lose,” Wardner said.

The major oil companies that operate on the reservation have signed a letter supporting the tribes.

“We want more of our dollars going back to the tribal entities to address issues on the reservation,” said Ron Ness, executive director for the North Dakota Petroleum Council, an industry trade group.

Prior to the 2008 agreement, there had not been a well drilled on Fort Berthold trust lands in 27 years because of the unstable and unpredictable tax and regulatory structure, Ness said.

In 2008, the state and tribes agreed to have one tax structure with oil companies paying a 6.5 percent extraction tax and a 5 percent production tax, the same taxes that companies pay in the rest of the state.

For wells drilled on trust lands, that revenue is divided equally between the state and the tribe.

On fee lands, which are privately owned lands on the reservation, the state receives 80 percent of the production tax and the tribes receive 20 percent of that tax.

The agreement has a five-year exemption on the extraction tax on fee land, with the state receiving 100 percent of that tax after the exemption expires. Because the agreement is about five years old, the state is just starting to collect extraction tax on fee lands, Wardner said.

Under the new proposal, that five-year tax holiday would be eliminated and the state and tribes would equally split the extraction and production taxes on fee lands.

A projection by the North Dakota Tax Department estimates the tribes would receive an additional $81 million in 2013-15 and nearly $232 million in the 2015-17 biennium under the proposal.

The state is estimated to gain $6 million in 2013-15 but lose nearly $76 million in 2015-17 compared to the current agreement, according to the projections.

Legislators are in favor of dividing the tax revenue equally, but they want to see a portion of the dollars targeted for improving roads, said Wardner, R-Dickinson.

“The roads are shot up there,” Wardner said, referring to the reservation. “It (the proposal) will not pass muster in these chambers unless there’s some accountability.”

Hall said he’s asked the state to account for how it spent oil taxes generated on the reservation and didn’t get an answer.

“If you ask us how we spend our money, we get to ask you,” Hall said.

Hall points out that the reservation is not eligible to apply for state energy-impact grants, even though the reservation generates oil revenue and is experiencing the same impacts that other Oil Patch communities are.

“That’s a slap in the face,” Hall said.

Wardner said the city of New Town is eligible for the grants but has never applied.

The industry is following the negotiations closely because companies could not afford to operate on the reservation if the tribes and the state can’t agree on a single tax structure, Ness said. Already companies have additional costs to drill on tribal lands, Ness said.

“The costs become pretty much prohibitive as you add potential additional taxes on top of that,” Ness said.

House Bill 1234, which deals with several oil issues, includes a recommendation to split the oil tax revenue equally, but it does not include a requirement for the tribes to spend money on roads, Wardner said.

The Senate Finance and Taxation Committee voted 7-0 to give the bill a do pass recommendation Thursday. The amendments will be discussed on the Senate floor today, and then the bill will go to Senate Appropriations next week, Wardner said.

If the bill is approved, it will give Gov. Jack Dalrymple some parameters to work with and he will meet with tribal leaders to renegotiate the agreement, Wardner said.

Hall said tribal leaders also want to remove a clause in the agreement that gives the state jurisdiction to regulate oil and gas activities on the reservation.

If a compromise cannot be reached, the issue would come back to the tribal council and leaders would decide whether they can live with it or they could vote to terminate the agreement with the state, Hall said.

Fort Berthold had 28 drilling rigs operating during the most recent monthly update from the state Department of Mineral Resources.

Heitkamp says reservation housing problems ‘extreme’

U.S. Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, D-N.D., signs autographs Wednesday, April 3, 2013, for Head Start students in New Town, N.D., during a tour of the area. Amy Dalrymple/Forum News Service

NEW TOWN, N.D. – American Indians are often a forgotten population in Washington, U.S. Sen. Heidi Heitkamp said Wednesday.

Heitkamp, D.-N.D., told members of the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara Nation she is working to elevate issues from reservations, with a particular focus on addressing the housing crisis.

Although many North Dakota communities say their No. 1 issue is housing, the housing shortage is more pronounced on American Indian reservations, she said.

“You are probably extreme in your housing difficulties,” Heitkamp said during a meeting with tribal elders.

On the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation, which Heitkamp toured Wednesday, it’s common for three or four generations to live in the same house, Heitkamp said. Often those residents are making good salaries, but they’re forced to live in cramped conditions because there is no other option, she said.

Representatives of Fort Berthold Housing Authority told Heitkamp their stock of housing is from the late 1960s and early 1970s with infrastructure that is failing.

“People cannot live like this,” Heitkamp said.

Heitkamp said her visit to Williston earlier this week attracted several housing developers, but they weren’t interested in talking to her about developing housing on the reservation. She said she wants to work to identify impediments to private investment on the reservations.

Reba White Shirt-Bruce, who attended a meeting with Heitkamp, suggested that North Dakota recruit out-of-work architects and housing developers from other parts of the country to build housing on the reservation.

One challenge to solving the housing crisis is that many federal programs are based on rental prices and wages rates that are too low for western North Dakota, Heitkamp said.

Heitkamp said she is positioned to bring the unique housing issues to Washington through her appointments on the Indian Affairs Committee and the Banking, Housing and Urban Development Committee in the Senate.

Heitkamp is scheduled to be in Valley City today and Fargo on Friday.

Mandaree students get hands-on lessons on oil

Frannina Lincoln, left, and Rozene Yellow Wolf, eighth-graders in Mandaree, N.D., touch the fluid used in hydraulic fracturing Thursday during a presentation about oil well completion. Amy Dalrymple/Forum News Service

MANDAREE, N.D. – Eighth-graders got to dig their hands into the gel-like fluid used in the hydraulic fracturing process at oil wells all around this community .

The Mandaree Public School students got an up-close lesson Thursday on the ingredients used in fracking, including the water and chemical mixture that an industry representative compared to the consistency of “bull’s snot.”

“It’s really weird looking stuff,” said Ron Parham, well completions manager for Enerplus Resources USA.

Thursday’s lesson was part of a yearlong Adopt-A-Well program with Enerplus and the students, who are following the development of an oil well near Mandaree from start to finish.

Each month, representatives from Enerplus visit the class and educate students about a different aspect of oil development, which is booming on the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation.

Students wore gloves to take turns touching the frac fluid, which eighth-grader Charismha Tsosie said felt like a slimy toy. They also passed around jars of sand and ceramic proppant used in fracking, which keeps the fractures in layers of rock open so the oil can be extracted.

The class asked questions about the amount of water required and what happens to the fluid after the well is complete.

In January, the students visited “their” well – Arabian 32H – while a drilling rig was on location. Other lessons have included geology, mineral leases, safety and protecting cultural and natural resources.

Students from the Adopt-A-Well program at Mandaree (N.D.) Public School visited a drilling rig location in January near Mandaree. Photo courtesy of Enerplus Resources USA

Eighth-grader Frannina Lincoln, who lives near an oil well, said she had a lot of questions about oil development before the Adopt-A-Well program.

“I finally know what’s going on,” Lincoln said.

Arla Dockter, K-8 principal for Mandaree Public School, said one of the goals of the program is to expose students to possible careers in engineering or the oil industry and to get them thinking about college.

“They have so many opportunities available to them,” Dockter said.

Parham, a petroleum engineer, told students what classes they’d need to take to pursue engineering and named off all of the places his career has allowed him to travel.

“It looks fun to be an engineer,” Lincoln said.

Enerplus Resources USA, which has headquarters in Canada, has about 75 oil wells in North Dakota, all on the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation. The company is active in the Mandaree community where its operations are based, including sponsoring the annual powwow, said Dan Larson, external affairs adviser for Enerplus.

Enerplus decided to launch the Adopt-A-Well program this year to get more involved in the schools and educate students about the oilfield activity they see every day, Larson said.

“Enerplus is going to be here awhile,” Larson said. “It’s important to show that commitment.”

Energy company donates to housing fund

BISMARCK — WPX Energy is making a $100,000 contribution to help build affordable housing on the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation.

Gov. Jack Dalrymple and representatives from WPX Energy announced the contribution to the North Dakota Housing Incentive Fund on Tuesday.

WPX Energy’s contribution was designated for use on the Fort Berthold Reservation, with half of the contribution targeted specifically for The Highlands of Parshall, a large development that will provide rental units near a school and playground for lower-income households.

Housing Incentive Fund contributions can be targeted to a specific project or designated for general use in a community or region.

Individuals, businesses and financial institutions that give to the fund receive a dollar-for-dollar state income tax credit.

Refinery planned for Fort Berthold Reservation

Tex Hall, chairman of the Three Affiliated Tribes, speaks during a press conference Wednesday to announce that an oil refinery is moving forward for Fort Berthold Reservation. On the right is U.S. Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar. On the left are Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs Del Laverdure and Bureau of Indian Affairs Director Mike Black. Amy Dalrymple/Forum Communications

NEW TOWN, N.D. – Plans for an oil refinery on the Fort Berthold Reservation, the first major refinery to be built in the United States in more than 30 years, cleared a milestone Wednesday.

Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar announced Wednesday approval of an application from the Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Reservation for the refinery.

The tribes requested that the Bureau of Indian Affairs accept a 469-acre piece of property into trust, a key step to let the refinery project move forward.

“This is a historic day,” Salazar said from the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara tribal headquarters. “It is the manifestation of the president’s efforts to make sure that we are respecting and empowering tribal communities across our country.”

The tribe can now proceed with financing the project, which will be called Thunder Butte Petroleum Services. It is estimated to cost $350 million to $400 million, said Richard Mayer, CEO of Thunder Butte Petroleum Services.

Construction on the facility could begin as early as next spring and is estimated to take 12 to 18 months, Mayer said.

Project developers of the refinery estimate it could create 800 to 1,000 construction jobs, up to 140 operations jobs, and millions in annual revenue to benefit the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara tribes and surrounding communities.

The 13,000 barrel-per-day facility would refine Bakken crude oil into products including diesel fuel and propane.

It eventually would have a capacity of up to 20,000 barrels per day, with the diesel staying in North Dakota, Mayer said.

The proposed refinery would take up about 190 acres of the 469 acres near Makoti, which is about 35 miles east of New Town.

The remaining acreage would be used for the production of feed for buffalo, according to a new release. Tex Hall, chairman of the Three Affiliated Tribes, said steps to build a refinery on the reservation began 10 years ago with the application for some seed money.

The original concept for the refinery was to process Canadian tar sands, Hall said. The plans were later changed to process Bakken crude. The Fort Berthold Reservation has now more than 700 producing wells.

“We didn’t know the Bakken was going to be here and to this degree,” Hall said.

The permitting process took extensive work, but the proposal cleared another major hurdle in July when the Environmental Protection Agency approved a discharge permit, Hall said.

“I grew up learning to never trust the government and here we are celebrating with the government today,” Hall said.

Tribal Economic Development bonds, tax-exempt borrowing created by the Stimulus Act, will fund the project, Hall said.

The last major refinery built in the lower 48 states of the United States began operating in 1977 in Garyville, La., according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. North Dakota produces about 700,000 barrels of oil per day.

The Tesoro refinery in Mandan is currently North Dakota’s only refinery. It expanded to process 68,000 barrels per day this year.

There are two other refineries being proposed in North Dakota, one near Dickinson and one near Trenton.

Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs Del Laverdure and Bureau of Indian Affairs Director Mike Black joined Salazar for the announcement.

Black said he’s been involved with the refinery proposal for five years and it’s been a lengthy process.

“I’ll be honest with you, I didn’t know that I’d ever see this day come,” Black said. “This is something that’s monumental, not only for the tribe, but for the whole North Dakota state.”

 

 

Salazar to make announcement at Fort Berthold today

U.S. Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar will visit the Fort Berthold Reservation today to make a major energy announcement.

Salazar will join Three Affiliated Tribes Chairman Tex Hall, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs Donald “Del” Laverdure and Bureau of Indian Affairs Director Mike Black at noon today at the Three Affiliated Tribes headquarters in New Town.

The announcement relates to energy development on tribal lands and expanding domestic energy production, according to a news release.

Federal rules would slow Fort Berthold oil development, officials say

NEW TOWN, N.D. – Federal red tape and redundant regulations threaten to slow oil development on the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation, tribal officials and industry leaders said Tuesday.

Tex Hall, chairman of the Mandan Hidatsa Arikara Nation, said the tribes oppose federal rules announced Friday that will require companies drilling for oil and gas on public and Indian lands to publicly disclose chemicals used in hydraulic fracturing.

Hall, who gave the opening comments Tuesday during the MHA Bakken Oil and Gas Expo, said he’s not opposed to disclosing the chemicals, but the proposed federal rules go too far and will slow down the permitting process.

“We shouldn’t be held up by federal obstacles or federal red tape,” Hall said. “These rules are severely impacting the bigger economy at Fort Berthold.”

Terry Kovacevich, an asset manager for Marathon Oil in Dickinson, N.D., echoed Hall’s comments during a presentation Tuesday afternoon.

Kovacevich said the proposed federal fracking rules duplicate what the state already has in place and will slow down oil development.

“All of this will drive development away from the reservation,” Kovacevich said.

Already, the Bureau of Land Management can’t keep up with approving drilling permits on tribal land, and this extra requirement will create further delays, Kovacevich said.

Rick Hotaling, acting North Dakota field manager for the federal Bureau of Land Management, said the rule was amended to require the fracking chemical disclosure after completion of the well, rather than before, in response to industry comments.

The Bureau of Land Management office in Dickinson has had a high turnover rate after many employees left to work for oil companies, Hotaling said.

When Hotaling arrived at the Dickinson office in February, there were 450 drilling applications pending, and 238 were from Fort Berthold, he said.

To catch up, the bureau has established a “strike team” in Miles City, Mont., where employees from around the country could find lodging, to address the backlog of permits and train the new hires, Hotaling said.

They will continue that approach until the office can get caught up, he said.

Chairman Hall also said he’s sending a written request to Gov. Jack Dalrymple asking to renegotiate an agreement the tribes have with the state regarding oil tax revenue generated on the reservation.

Hall said the agreement is unfair and the tribe should be receiving a greater share.

“We already asked him but nothing happened,” Hall said. “We’re not going away.”

Dalrymple, in a phone interview after the conference, said he has appointed legal counsel in his office to discuss the issue with tribal officials.

However, changing the rule would require legislative approval, not just action from his office, Dalrymple said.

“Everybody signed it originally. They think that some of the details of it could be more fair, I guess,” Dalrymple said. “We are certainly open to talking to them about that.”

Hall also called on oil companies to share the responsibility of maintaining the roads.

Last year, the tribe spent $9.5 million on roads and the tribe and its members were not responsible for that amount of damage, Hall said.

“We can’t afford to pay for everything,” he said.